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Help needed Front Electronic Module

Discussion in '2002 - 2005 Ford Thunderbird' started by Gus Gutz, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. Gus Gutz

    Gus Gutz Well-Known Member Lifetime Donor

    1200.00 but it made all the difference in the world. The part was 700. I know you can find them cheaper but they did all the programming and I have a warranty on the part. All of the strange little problems are gone. I am thinking of having the old one rebuilt and keeping it for a spare
     
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  2. pblach

    pblach Active Member Lifetime Donor

    I am also worried about my 2002 Bird, since the dashboard lights are out and the steering column sometimes does not adjust when I turn on the ignition. I would like to send the Front Electronic Module to AutomotiveModules.com for repairs, but I am not sure I am capable of removing this part from the "Driver side kick Panel." Is this something a novice can tackle to remove and then reinstall?
    Many thanks,
    Penny Blach, San Diego
     
  3. Gus Gutz

    Gus Gutz Well-Known Member Lifetime Donor

    Kearny Pearson Ford in San Diego replaced mine . I was like you and not sure I had the technical knowledge to take it on. Here is the removal instructions. Kearny Pearson Ford gave me the core. I was thinking of getting it rebuilt as a spare.
     

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  4. pblach

    pblach Active Member Lifetime Donor

    Thanks, Gus for these directions. It looks way over my ability to remove it, so I think I am stuck going to Perry Ford or some other San Diego Ford dealer.
     
  5. wcoates started a topic Module suppliers/re-manufactuers
    Dec 29, 2016, 01:46 PM
    Hope we can get input from all those who have had experiences with getting different modules replaced or repaired.

    This list is an attempt to put many possibilities in front of users to possibly shorten their search/decision making. None can be construed as a recommendation but rather beginning info from which to investigate.

    The following nomenclature list was provided by LA PHIL:
    Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
    Restraints Control Module
    ABS Control Module
    Front Electronic Module
    Rear Ambient Lighting Control Unit
    Remote Keyless Entry Module
    Instrument Cluster Module
    Electronic Automatic Temperature Control Module

    (2018) our friend DavidA just added this as a source:
    https://carcomputerexchange.com/ford...d/cat_258.html


    this is the one that provided the PCM that got me running again. (Linear also used in January 2017 with favorable results).

    http://www.fs1inc.com/
    516-766-2723

    The following is one Gene (007cruiser) posted and I believe that DavidA either used or found. Think this gent was also referred to me by Ron McCloud. Spoke to him at length and said module had to be sent to him. No shelf stock and might take two or three attempts at the right one. Both Links will get you to the same Company).

    http://www.automotivemodules.com/Thunderbird.html
    http://www.midwestteckmart.com/

    :
    From Jim:
    ECMS at (877)-687-3267. They sell rebuilt electronic modules
    From Gene:
    http://www.ecmtogo.com/fordecmecupcm.htm
    http://www.autoecu.com/


    Ray posted these that he received from Gary (RIP):
    www.ecmdepot.com
    http://www.automotivemodules.com


    sold a guaranteed FEM on ebay to a member
    www.tollgateauto.com
    Phone - 1(800)342-1125 or 1(724)834-5800

    our old friend cewhite3 posted:
    http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...A1789053F.html
    autocomputerecm.com

    Richard (Merlot4) listed these threads as relavent to module replacement/repair:

    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...&highlight=PCM
    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...078#post591078
    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...774#post591774
    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=40026
    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...d=1#post601237
    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=44018
    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=37670
    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=45751

    http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=45964
     
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  6. I seem to have problems with my FEM. Does somebody know, if the modules of the Lincoln LS or the Jaguar fit too? Anything I have to concern (model year?)? Thanks for your help!
     
  7. My 2002 developed the problem with the dash instruments and shifter indicator light problem. I had my FEM pulled by the local dealer (Reynols Ford of Norman, OK) and shipped to ecmtogo.com. Once they got the module, they ran a diagnostic test and determined that the #1 pin was the problem. They also told me that they could not fix it. The part number for my original FEM is 1W6T 13B525 AH. The dealer told me that they could get another, but that it did not have the same part number, as that part was no longer available. I authorized the installation of the new module, and it worked perfectly. The new part is numbered 1W6Z 14B205 AA. The dealer had to flash the module with the original FEM program (S154), but it worked. The cost was $900 total, and I was glad to pay it as my car is fixed. ECM To Go was a complete bust.

    Happy days!
     
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  8. Can I by it from you, I live in Sweden so if I send my FEM and then wait for acouple of weeks, it´s no good for me. I rather bay a FEM so I can change it at home. My FEM is 3W6T-13B252AF
     
  9. vcionetti

    vcionetti Active Member Lifetime Donor

    BEWARE OF “AUTOMOTIVE MODULES”! THIS COMPANY RIPPED ME OFF. I’d originally called this company and described my problems with wipers coming on by themselves, shifter lights not working, etc. they assured me that if I sent in my FEM they would repair it. I paid my mechanic to take out my FEM (then replace it after I got it back). I sent it in to AUTOMOTIVE MODULES, and after reinstall, nothing was fixed!
    I had the same problems with the wipers and no shifter lights.

    I called and they hemmed and hawed and would not offer a refund.
    I had paid them using Paypal and in frustration filed a complaint/claim with them but after many go rounds back and forth, (this was going on sincd April) Paypal would not help me. They said the company wanted me to send the FEM back again! Well, I paid $150 to have my mechanic pull it out and put it back in the first place, Paid $208 to Automotive Modules. Paid nearly another $40 to send it to them originally and so now I’m out close to $400!

    They’re not taking me for any more dough. I’m not going thru this again. I asked the Paypal rep, if you had for instance, your car radio needing repair, paid to have it removed and reinstalled, sent it to a “repair” company and after it got reinstalled it still didn’t work, would you pay to have it removed/installed and send it back to them again? Yeah, they made “oh, so sorry” noises but I’m still out all that money.
    Please members, DO NOT SEND YOUR FEM TO THIS COMPANY.
     
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  10. Have anybody tried Auto Ecm Computer Exchange, for reparing the F:E:M? There is hard to find any who could reprogram the unit.
     
  11. Isn't this Midwesttechmart
     
  12. Is this Midwesttechmart
     
  13. I’m referring to “Automotive Modules” are they the same company as Midwesttechmart
     
  14. Has anybody change the FEM by yourself. I have losen the two nuts, but it seems to stay put. maybe the FEM is glued to the wall. Is tere only to nuts to unscrew?
     
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  15. Gus Gutz

    Gus Gutz Well-Known Member Lifetime Donor

    I have the one the dealer removed and there is no glue on it
     
  16. Gus Gutz

    Gus Gutz Well-Known Member Lifetime Donor

    Maybe this will help. It looks like there is three bolts.
     

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  17. Gus Gutz

    Gus Gutz Well-Known Member Lifetime Donor

    any updates on your progress?
     
  18. yes, now I have taken the FEM away. there also was a little screw to take away
     
  19. I have sent the FEM to Midwesttechmart and got an mail that says the packet was empty when it arrived. I have talk to them, but I Think I am screwed. Any sugestion what to do?
     
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