Top Issue- 02-05 Ford Thunderbird Ignition Coils COP

I have two questions.
1. Can you buy the wiper seal and or the coil covers from bulletin #07N09?
2. If this is suppose to fix this problem why does it seem a lot of people on here keep having the same problem again?
 

Bark624

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I have two questions.
1. Can you buy the wiper seal and or the coil covers from bulletin #07N09?
2. If this is suppose to fix this problem why does it seem a lot of people on here keep having the same problem again?
Both should be available online, start with Amazon. It's amazing what they have for our 'Birds. It's a design flaw, most common in the '03-'05 models after the engine reconfiguration. I don't think most owners have the problem again after making the initial necessary repairs, though some might disagree.
 
My 2003 TB had one coil fail on Aug. 2012 50,000 miles under warranty Ford only fixed the #4 cyl. On Sep 2014 @ 52,000 miles another coil failed and I replaced all 7 coils and put in all new plugs. I think they where Carquest coils, and Autolite plugs.
Now at 17 years old 68,000 miles and runs great.
Most of my problems have been the plastic parts cracking. Very common problem here in the desert. Las Vegas.
 
Have oil in 4 of my 2002 spark plug wells 2 on each side of motor. Car has 62000 miles just changed cop and plugs got as much oil out as possible with screwdriver and rag. Their are no leaks I can see from valve covers on outside of motor. Any ideas for cause and cure for oil in plug well
 

biddle

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Had my 05 over to my mechanic to replace 8 COILS and 8 plugs yesterday...went well..runs great.......didn’t have ny issues bit figured better save then sorry ,,,,,,.i used the amazin ones and they went on fine. Did a transmission fluid change even though I have 47 k on it......love my Bird..
 

biddle

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I thought I read there was a problem with the length of these coils preventing them from seating properly.
Hundreds of people have put them in over the past two years without issues. It's a tight fit. Most of the people with issues were probably doing something wrong or gave up too easily. One guy took his to the mechanic who installed them without any issues.
 
2002-2005 Ford Thunderbird and Lincoln LS have a widely known issue with Ignition coils going bad and also fouling out spark plugs causing misfires
. Just by replacing these components you may be able to bring new life to your engine!

At the time of this post, 39.99 for an entire set of Ignition Coils! Can't beat that! If you have a 2002-2005 Ford Thunderbird I would buy these just to have on hand because of the history of these going bad! Don't forget to order 8 spark plugs too because the coils foul them out!

Here is the link https://amzn.to/31CezPd

There is a post here on how to replace or here.

Important- You may also have a problem with your cowl seal, wiper seal etc, which is causing the coils to fail! You can read more about that in this post.


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I purchased these coils and brought them to mechanic this morning to install with new plugs. He called to say they were too tall and valve covers would not fit. I‘m curious, as others surely experienced this same issue, how was it resolved?
 

biddle

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I purchased these coils and brought them to mechanic this morning to install with new plugs. He called to say they were too tall and valve covers would not fit. I‘m curious, as others surely experienced this same issue, how was it resolved?
Assuming you bought the correct coils, you need a new mechanic. Are these taller than factory? Yes, slightly about 1/8". Can someone with experience get the valve cover back on? Yes. I would show the mechanic the Amazon reviews as well as numerous people who have used these and posted on this thread. Too many people have installed them successfully for them not to fit. If at first you do not succeed, try try again. This is a 15+ year old car, everything isn't necessarily going to work like brand new!
 
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Assuming you bought the correct coils, you need a new mechanic. Are these taller than factory? Yes, slightly about 1/8". Can someone with experience get the valve cover back on? Yes. I would show the mechanic the Amazon reviews as well as numerous people who have used these and posted on this thread. Too many people have installed them successfully for them not to fit. If at first you do not succeed, try try again. This is a 15+ year old car, everything isn't necessarily going to work like brand new!
I told mechanic they’d been successfully installed by other owners but he didn’t want to install them so I returned them to Amazon for refund and purchased Denso units on Ebay for 10x the others cost, but $100 less than Motorcraft ones he suggested I purchase. Thanks for your feedback!
 

JW in Dixie

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I told mechanic they’d been successfully installed by other owners but he didn’t want to install them so I returned them to Amazon for refund and purchased Denso units on Ebay for 10x the others cost, but $100 less than Motorcraft ones he suggested I purchase. Thanks for your feedback!
Strange, the Amazon set I bought fit fine. Don't understand. I would caliper both and see where the diff is and then adjust with a Dremmel tool, etc. That's just me, I'm not cheap - I'm thrifty. :)
 

biddle

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Strange, the Amazon set I bought fit fine. Don't understand. I would caliper both and see where the diff is and then adjust with a Dremmel tool, etc. That's just me, I'm not cheap - I'm thrifty. :)
The mechanic/shop also typically 30%-50% profit off the parts they sell, which obviously is an incentive for the parts you buy and supply to conveniently not work.
 
Strange, the Amazon set I bought fit fine. Don't understand. I would caliper both and see where the diff is and then adjust with a Dremmel tool, etc. That's just me, I'm not cheap - I'm thrifty. :)
Here's a link and picture from when I replaced mine two years ago. These were the "Parts Galaxy" replacements ordered from Amazon. I'm not sure if the current "recommended" ones from Amazon are exactly the same, but I gather they are. I got the cover on by alternating the tightening of the screws on both sides. I also laid on a light bead of Permatex black to help with the seal. No problems since.

 
Here's a link and picture from when I replaced mine two years ago. These were the "Parts Galaxy" replacements ordered from Amazon. I'm not sure if the current "recommended" ones from Amazon are exactly the same, but I gather they are. I got the cover on by alternating the tightening of the screws on both sides. I also laid on a light bead of Permatex black to help with the seal. No problems since.

I did the same as @tommyc, only without the Permatex. No problems. I would look for a new mechanic.
 
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