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2002 Momentary loss of AC

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Driving my ‘bird’ a few evenings ago, the AC switched from cold to not cold, more like the 85 degrees outside. I turned the AC off for the rest of the trip. The next day I turned AC on and it worked.
Any ideas as to what caused the problem?

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It could be a number of things. When the AC goes off you need to see if the clutch is turning. If it isn't it could be as simple as low refrigerant, a bad clutch or a bad pressure sensor. If the clutch is turning you could have a compressor that's going bad or a clogged expansion valve or evaporator. There are certainly other causes like a bad control panel. I've also heard that the heater control valve can cause the AC to stop working. You need to hook up AC gauges to find out for sure what the condition of you system is.
 
You need to check for faults stored in the Dual Automatic Temperature Control (DATC) module. The best way is by using a scan tool that will communicate with the DATC module. If you do not have a scan tool, you can perform self-tests right from the front panel display. Here is how you do it:

The first thing to do is an A/C module diagnosis. There are 2 self-tests shown below.

1. Front Panel DATC Module Self-Test (On-demand Diagnostic Trouble Codes — DTCs)

On-demand DTCs are those that are reported by an ECU when a failure is detected while executing a diagnostic test. For the DATC module this means that all faults (hard) that occur while the module is conducting a self-test shall be reported as an on-demand DTC.

The DATC module self-test will not detect concerns associated with data link messages such as engine coolant temperature or vehicle speed signals. The scan tool must be used to retrieve these concerns.
  • The vehicle interior temperature should be between 0-32°C (32-90°F) when carrying out the self-test. If the temperatures are not within the specified ranges, false temperature sensor DTCs may be displayed.
The DATC module self-test through the front panel display:
  • Can be initiated at any time. Normal operation of the system stops when the self-test is activated.
  • Is entered by pressing the OFF and DEFROST buttons simultaneously and then pressing the AUTO button within two seconds. Record all DTCs displayed.
  • Concludes by reporting all on-demand DTCs. Follow the diagnostics procedure given under ACTION in the DTC index for each DTC given.
  • Reports individual on-demand DTCs as four-digit DTCs (less the alpha character).
Will calibrate all the mode doors and check all analog inputs. The DATC module will only report on-demand (hard) faults that occurred while the DATC module was conducting its self-test.
  • Will light all control panel display segments if no faults are detected.
  • Will report individual on-demand DTCs without the °C symbol lit.
To exit the self-test, press any button. This will clear all on-demand codes from the DATC module memory. If no button is pushed, DTCs will continue to be displayed.

Upon exit from the self-test the DATC module returns to operational status. The DATC module executes a hard (cold boot) reset which places the DATC system in the OFF mode.

If a condition exists but no DTCs appear during the self-test, GO to Symptom Chart, Condition.

Always exit the self-test before powering the system down (system turned OFF).

2. Front Panel DATC Module Display — Retrieve Continuous Diagnostic Trouble Codes

Continuous DTCs are fault codes recorded by the DATC module which have occurred during normal operation. For the DATC module this means that all faults (intermittent or hard) that occur while the module is in an operational state shall be reported as a continuous DTC.

To retrieve continuous DTCs, press the OFF and DEFROST buttons simultaneously, followed by pressing the RECIRC button within two seconds.

  • The DATC module will report all continuous DTCs to the vacuum fluorescent (VF) display.
  • The DATC module will not carry out a self-test; it will only display continuous faults codes which are stored in memory.
  • All VF display segments will light if no faults are detected.
  • Individual continuous DTCs will be reported with the °C symbol lit.
  • DTCs shall be reported as a four-digit DTC (less the alpha character).
  • Pressing the front defrost button will exit the retrieve continuous DTCs mode and clear all continuous DTCs from DATC module memory.
  • Pressing any other button (other than DEFROST) will exit the retrieve continuous DTCs mode and maintain all continuous DTCs in DATC module memory.

Upon exit from the retrieve continuous DTCs mode the DATC module returns to operational status. The DATC module executes a hard (cold boot) reset which places the DATC system in the OFF mode.

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