1664 starter motor identification and replacement

[Daniel Riseborough]

Hey everyone my starter motor has just failed on me and Im trying to get some idea of which starter motor I need to replace it. I am unable to get underneath and take it out myself. I have the 64 ford thunderbird 6.4 390 engine 2 door hardtop. Any help would be much appreciated, would like to get back on the road ASAP....

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[inspector]

Here's a couple of pictures of what it looks like.

 

[iwinyouwin]

You could have your starter rebuilt in the USA. I have used https://www.chicagostarterandalternator.com/ before and the price was reasonable.
You could also go with a high torque non-original if you want to upgrade the starter from someplace like Summit Racing https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pwm-13131/make/ford/model/thunderbird/year/1964

 

[Daniel Riseborough]

Unfortunately as I'm based in the UK sending things to the states is out of the question as we have very high shipping costs. Sent a 3kg parcel to texas the other day 71 bucks.
So it would be cheaper to buy just a whole new one and send it here.

 

[Ward 57]

I'm surprised you haven't looked at having it rebuilt. I know English cars are known for electrical issues so there should be a good supply of talent.. I'm sure you can find a rebuilder not too far away. I've always held the axiom that it's better to rebuild the original. The other thing you hear is 'They don't make them as well now as they used to'.

 

[Daniel Riseborough]

Is it better to rebuild or to buy a new one. I'd imagine the labour costs would match or even probably exceed a new one seen some for around 100 bucks to 260 depending on the remanufacture to powermaster brand.

 

[iwinyouwin]

A would trust a rebuild from a local shop with experienced people more rather than a new one that is likely made in China. The exception would be if an original was considered to be poorly designed and a new one has an upgraded design.

 

[BigClay]

Here's a couple of pictures of what it looks like.

The starter in the pictures is NOT a ‘64 starter. The pic I posted has two starters. The big one on the left is from a ‘64 TBird.

 

[BigClay]

The starter in the pictures is NOT a ‘64 starter. The pic I posted has two starters. The big one on the left is from a ‘64 TBird.

AND, it only comes off from underneath.

 

[inspector]

Thanks Big Clay for setting me right. The pictures I put up we from a 65.

 

[Daniel Riseborough]

Okies thanks guys for your help I've just bought ramps and a jack hope to have it off before Xmas so I can identify the particular part number.

 

[Daniel Riseborough]

Found this one which might be the right one.

 

[BigClay]

Okies thanks guys for your help I've just bought ramps and a jack hope to have it off before Xmas so I can identify the particular part number.

MAKE SURE YOU DISCONNECT YOUR BATTERY BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT TO REMOVE STARTER!

 

[Daniel Riseborough]

Hey everyone happy new year I've finally taken that starter if and I can say that the bendix did indeed snap. Trying to look for a new bendix bud I'm unsure of the part number.

 

[Daniel Riseborough]

Hey guys so the starter motor is coming to the end of its life had a lot ofbsmoke and sweet metallic smells trying to turn the engine on. Has anywhere here got a powermaster starter which is what I'm looking at atm on summit racing. One or the other

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Or should I get the same style as before.

 

[Mat]

Do I rebuild the starter or get a new one?

 

[iwinyouwin]

On my 64 I went with the high torque non OEM, and it's much better than original.