Goodbye and Good Luck

[JW in Dixie]

My 04 runs great - smooth as silk, quiet as a mouse with 131k miles on the clock. In this 100 degree Alabama heat I drive with the top down and the AC wide open, grinning like a possum. Old toot, driving what I always wanted but couldn't afford in earlier years. What's not to like? Cheers

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[Waltbird]

I had two corvettes, a 69 and a 79. My Bird is twice the car either one of those was, and will be classier for much longer. I'm 62 and have had many cars in my time. Buics,Fords, Plymouth, Dodge, Crysler, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Cadilac, Honda, Triumph and Toyota. Some good some better and some worse. First car was a 55 Chevy. Worst car was a 2007 Cadilac CTS that was only two years old.

Said all that to say this; drive what you like, don't drive what you dislike. But darn it man don't put down a brand or a model just because you had no tollerence for its quirks. Those are what give the car character.

Do you know what will make you feel better?

Just get the frik over it brother. Then you and all of us here will be happy again.

Regards
W

 

[usmcdad]

Before I purchased my Thunderbird, I looked at a very clean and sharp 2005 Mercedes Sl350 roadster. It was a hardtop convertible. It had about 80,000 miles on it, and drove very nice. It had a much nicer interior than the Tbird, but when we got back, I said, "Let's put the top down". It got stuck just a few inches above the windshield and would go no further. It would come down, but would not fully retract. I said "I'll think about it." to the seller. Checking the Mercedes dealer, and a shop that worked on Mercedes (not many independent shops like to work on Mercedes as they require not only all metric tools, but specialized tools as well that are expensive to purchase), I was quoted "about $3000" to replace the pump for the top. The Independent shop was $1700. I quickly decided that there is a reason that mostly doctors and lawyers drive Mercedes. You can soon have the price of a new car in repairs on a Mercedes. It was an easy decision to choose the Thunderbird with only 23,000 miles on it, everything worked, and never driven in the rain.

 

[biddle]

I quickly decided that there is a reason that mostly doctors and lawyers drive Mercedes.
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And young kids buying used ones to look like they have money! lol I know a 20 year old kid that just bought a 2003 Mercedes SL500 from a buy here pay here lot. The plastic molding piece on the back window has already come unglued and is gone. That's going to be the least of his worries. Scotty Kilmer has it listed on his 5 Car Brands you should never buy and said that the Engine and Transmission are solid but everything else costs a fortune to fix.

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[Waltbird]

Before I purchased my Thunderbird, I looked at a very clean and sharp 2005 Mercedes Sl350 roadster. It was a hardtop convertible. It had about 80,000 miles on it, and drove very nice. It had a much nicer interior than the Tbird, but when we got back, I said, "Let's put the top down". It got stuck just a few inches above the windshield and would go no further. It would come down, but would not fully retract. I said "I'll think about it." to the seller. Checking the Mercedes dealer, and a shop that worked on Mercedes (not many independent shops like to work on Mercedes as they require not only all metric tools, but specialized tools as well that are expensive to purchase), I was quoted "about $3000" to replace the pump for the top. The Independent shop was $1700. I quickly decided that there is a reason that mostly doctors and lawyers drive Mercedes. You can soon have the price of a new car in repairs on a Mercedes. It was an easy decision to choose the Thunderbird with only 23,000 miles on it, everything worked, and never driven in the rain.

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My brother in law bought one. He thinks the Merc is the greatest car ever. Funny thing though is its broken more often than not, and the repair costs are way higher than than my Bird. Bless His Heart!

And young kids buying used ones to look like they have money! lol I know a 20 year old kid that just bought a 2003 Mercedes SL500 from a buy here pay here lot. The plastic molding piece on the back window has already come unglued and is gone. That's going to be the least of his worries. Scotty Kilmer has it listed on his 5 Car Brands you should never buy and said that the Engine and Transmission are solid but everything else costs a fortune to fix.

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So true, so true.;-)

 

[usmcdad]

The bottom line: If you cannot afford to buy a NEW Mercedes that has a factory warranty, then you cannot afford a Mercedes!

 

[AMX]

The bottom line: If you cannot afford to buy a NEW Mercedes that has a factory warranty, then you cannot afford a Mercedes!

Come on, enough with this Good By forum, we all get the point

 

[tbird2731]

Scale back on the BS. lol? It is not the 17 year old chrome peeling, it is the difficulty (or inability) to get the parts!! What do you do if you are 500 miles from home and the FEM or other vital part goes bad? Let me help. You get a motel room (at the weekly rate). Hey, you like your car, I like my dog. Again, Good Bye And Good Luck!! --- Alan

 

[biddle]

Scale back on the BS. lol? It is not the 17 year old chrome peeling, it is the difficulty (or inability) to get the parts!! What do you do if you are 500 miles from home and the FEM or other vital part goes bad? Let me help. You get a motel room (at the weekly rate). Hey, you like your car, I like my dog. Again, Good Bye And Good Luck!! --- Alan

Anyone 500 miles from home in a 17 year old car is not wise. Rent a car, that's what I did when I had an old car years ago.

 

[Paladin]

I own a 05 T-Bird purchased new in Nov. 04. This coming November the car will be 15 yrs. old. The car has 109352 miles on it. It has been back-n-forth across the United States 10 times and I would not hesitate to do it again.
Yes the car has had some mechanical problems, none of which would cause me to get rid of it. We drive it everyday as it is our only car.
Yes every time we are out & about we receive very nice comments about the car. It is unique! It is not a look alike sedan nor is it an everyday SUV, but instead a style all its own.
Yes you can search all the web sites relating to Thunderbirds and learn of all the faults the Retros(2002-05) have. After-all they are getting to be older cars being passed over by new technology. BUT I have come to realize something about human nature and that is, folks are more inclined to complain, whine & moan about something than to go on & on about how well everything is. Think about it. How frequently have you seen on this site or any other car site that features owner's comments an expression of just how smoothly everything is going with their car? Usually you won't fine any comments like that, just comments about how bad it is.
Yes things happen, tell me about any mechanical thing that doesn't have a problem or two or a part or two that is difficult to locate. Yes the parts have been discontinued by Ford & why not the car has been out of production for 14 years. Ford has moved on, there is no requirement to have in stock every imaginable part.
All that said, if those are reasons to sell or trade away your 2002-05 T-Bird so be it. You probably did not enjoy the car and its Thunderbird heritage in the first place.

I gotta tell ya my friend, my 04 bird and 14 heritage could not agree more, some things are NOT for everyone, but for those of us that love them there is NOTHING better!